/Update 9-19/Will Fox be allowed to attend Community Revival at CBC
Monday, 20th
Tony Cartledge has an excellent blog up today on these matters at www.homilygrits.blogspot.com I have made a comment there about my ordeal in Collinsville.
What I am sayingnext is not intended to needle the Pastor's wife,just a matter of record I found most interesting from a friendly conversation we had couple of years ago, just a coincidence.
Gloria told me the charming story of how Kate Campbell's Mother, Jim Henry's wife,played the piano for Gloria to sing in a Baptist solo contest for young girls when the Henry's wereat Two Rivers Church where Jerry Sutton is now the subject of much controversy.
Gloria was a member of another church in the association as I understand it.
www.katecampbell.com to appear in a big show in Dekalb County before Thanksgiving
Sunday the 19th:
An influential member of the congregation took my appeal Sat morning by Phone. I got a m
essage on my machine this morning that said after consultation with various deacons it was determined it "would NOT be appropriate" for me to go to Community Revival tonight at the Collinsville Baptist Church.
Sign out front said "Everyone is INvited". Maybe somebody should amend the sign to say EXCEPT Stephen Michael Fox.
I do sincerely appreciate the person who was the messenger for my appeal, and for them giving me the news which the person said they were "sorry" to have to share.
Alabama GOP Committeewoman Mary Anne Cole invited me to join her at the Collinsville UMC in the Pleasant Grove area off HWY 68 between the CBC and 59 this morning to hear a woman preacher, a Ms. Washington.
I appreciate the invitation and under more ordinary circumstances would have joined her. As it all turned out, I had other ministries this day I was compelled to pursue.
I do hope Ms. Cole makes the acquaintance of my good Friend Nate Beckett soon in Collinsville. Hoping we can bring Bishop Elder Babb and the Madison Bumblebees from Winnsboro, South Carolina to the area soon to share the True Christian Pilgrimage as it appears some folks at the Church on the Hill Have Lost Their Way.
God Have Mercy on Us All.
There are Good people in the world however. Met a Retired Air Force Gentlemen recently from Arkansas who knew enough to appreciate George Truett. Got him reading Ron Rash as well. Told him about Collinsvillian Bud Oliver, McNamara and the Planer reeds. He got a smile out of that one.
Sfox
Aug 17 a Friday
Noticed today where Kelly Townsend had a big picture feature on the Collinsville Community Revival with quotes almost solely by Pastor John Morgan. Morgan's son, Joseph, now works for the paper in Ads, sources say.
Great picture. I recognized Mamie Moore--had occasion to speak to Mamie in the bank earlier this week, my friends Mary Jo Nelson and James Myers in a full house service from last year apparently, at COGOP Harvest Center.
I may seek communication with MOrgan and his wife later in the year for some conversation about my dismissal from the congregation; and possibly make a phone call this weekend to see if I would be welcome Sunday night, or be forsaken.
Aug 16
Here on the Day Elvis Died 30 years ago, I have been notified in another high trafficked forum a fresh wave of lurkers is coming here to take notice of my blog.
One thing they may want to consider is appointing a treasurer amongst themselves for the New Initiative in Collinsville to have Streetlights named for Notable Citizens.
My lamp for all practical purposes was snuffed out May 28 2006; but the light of my ancestry deserves to shine on. I am hoping folks with more means will contribute to celebrate the legacy of my Grandfather and Grandmother Jordan, folks of the virtue of Judge Frank Johnson and the Judge who overturned the Scottsboro Boys verdict for the good.
Momma's extended family on the Vanzant and Jordan side include a host of preachers, Non profit administrators, musicians, pharmacists, a former president of Huntington College Student Body, Doctors in Piedmont, Woodstock, Ga, Dewey Oklahoma, and Arizona, an international Opera Singer, an inner city elementary teacher of the Year, and a Cotton Bowl Queen.
At one time the Block in town diagonally across from the Baptist Church I can no longer set foot in was called the Jordan Block, right across the Street from the Barksdale Compound.
If we can come up with the funds, I think it most appropriate to go for the Light Stand on the East Corner of the Old Jordan block, almost in the Heart of Town, to the Left if you are facing Cook's Barber Shop.
Just something to consider.
As Wayne Flynt the noted Alabama Historian has said, one's truth often depends on What History you Believe.
I'll see if I can't get a link up for you.
There are pictures on the homepage of the town. Even a picture of the top of a light in question.
The Jordan/Vanzant post I am hoping would go in the foreground of the block there in the picture--yes, that is the old Jordan block they feature there--with the post standing pretty much on the front driver's side bumper of the white car in the foreground bottom left of the Mainstreet picture.
http://www.collinsvillealabama.net/
It is community Revival time again starting this Sunday, Aug. 19 evening in collinsville.
The First Service will be held at Collinsville Baptist, where they have a Magnificent Air Conditioning System, and A New Carpet and Pew Configuration thanks to my Friend Martha and her friends and great work in 94 or so; relatively new I guess
Will I be invited; Am I welcome. Has the COS d me long enough, marginalized me forever.
I hear a Deacon asked about my welfare Sunday, so there is some concern; I haven't been forgotten entirely. I appreciate it.
The Church of God Preacher is Preaching, Brother Brock. He is a good preacher, but if I am allowed in the doors, I may just stay for the congregational singing since that is the portion of the Service I enjoy the most.
As Deacon Marty Borntrager said soon after the proceedings of May 28 2006: Fox needs the Church. I don't disagree with him on the matter. I was only 7 votes short of renewal, and I think I could win a south county wide plebiscite though it could be close, a nail biter.
Maybe somebody could start a petition for Restoration.
One thing that wasn't made exactly clear the day I got voted out. I think it kinda sounded like I had thumbed my nose at the entire process, as it was said publicly I had failed to honor "The Last Straw".
I did miss the line by 24 hours or so and I regret that. I knocked on the deacon's door when they were deliberating seeking a time when we could get together and begin reconciliation.
Two major weddings had taken place in the community and I didn't want to sidetrack the goodwill and joy they deserved.
I relaxxed a little and missed the line.
I regret it.
Would be nice to be allowed to sing What a friend We Have In Jesus with the Community again, upwards of 97% I think I can get along with.
Why let 3% railroad me out through a series of misunderstandings?
And though It could be for all parties, as I have said since Jan 04, maybe as early as 03, I am ready on a well rested day maybe with some carrot salad and a fresh breeze, to sit down and talk with my Despisers, even offer a few apologies of my own.
My outrage, disappointment, came with observations of these folks working the shadows; getting 2nd parties to do their bidding.
That is not the Jesus way.
Hope things otherwise with you all are well.
Stephen Fox
Here is more of what I have been banned from, voted off the premises by Seven Votes; from a public Baptist discussion board, where they still think the Baptist legacy matters; unlike some who are now in positions of influence at the CBC
Welcome, Uncle Prentice--I counted Brer Fox's father Billy as a good friend and one of the finest ministers of the gospel I ever knew. You mentioned Robeson County NC--got some ancestral connections there, Turners and Barrentines.Lamar Wadsworth
Posts: 630
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:53 pm
Location: Rockmart GA (on a slippery slope, between Aragon and VanWert, 6 miles SW of Taylorsville)
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PRENTICE SAYS,
by PRENTICE on Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:04 pm
Lamar, you are 100% right about my brother Billy. His message was authentic, and his compassion was genuine. Billy and I both have a tendency to tears; but we were not ashamed for more often than not they were tears of Joy. Billy's tears were not like those of some televangelists who are able to instantaneously cry on cue; Billy's tears were from his heart for all mankind.
Billy bore malice toward no man. He passed from this life into Glory on 2 August 1999. The family had his funeral at First Baptist Church of Collinsville, AL. His wife, Louise, was baptized in that church. The church was completely full. People drove down from TN and over from GA, SC and NC He was loved by all who knew him; and he set a paradigm for us all to follow. But Billy did snore.
sfox>Testimony from Billy's Brother, Prentice
My Mother was baptized in that church along with her Mother back about 1936 or so, Her Mother Arrie Lula Vanzant coming over from the Methodists. Momma's funeral was August 19, 1988. She maybe had more at her funeral than Dad.
If my funeral is held in that church, the family will have to come up with 35 dollars to rent the facilities. Considerably less people will be in attendance, I imagine.
A footnote.
Lamar Wadsworth is a good man. He has written a Novel, People of This Covenant I heartily recommend for all church libraries as Senior groups in particular will find it endearing.
Sfox
Tony Cartledge has an excellent blog up today on these matters at www.homilygrits.blogspot.com I have made a comment there about my ordeal in Collinsville.
What I am sayingnext is not intended to needle the Pastor's wife,just a matter of record I found most interesting from a friendly conversation we had couple of years ago, just a coincidence.
Gloria told me the charming story of how Kate Campbell's Mother, Jim Henry's wife,played the piano for Gloria to sing in a Baptist solo contest for young girls when the Henry's wereat Two Rivers Church where Jerry Sutton is now the subject of much controversy.
Gloria was a member of another church in the association as I understand it.
www.katecampbell.com to appear in a big show in Dekalb County before Thanksgiving
Sunday the 19th:
An influential member of the congregation took my appeal Sat morning by Phone. I got a m
essage on my machine this morning that said after consultation with various deacons it was determined it "would NOT be appropriate" for me to go to Community Revival tonight at the Collinsville Baptist Church.
Sign out front said "Everyone is INvited". Maybe somebody should amend the sign to say EXCEPT Stephen Michael Fox.
I do sincerely appreciate the person who was the messenger for my appeal, and for them giving me the news which the person said they were "sorry" to have to share.
Alabama GOP Committeewoman Mary Anne Cole invited me to join her at the Collinsville UMC in the Pleasant Grove area off HWY 68 between the CBC and 59 this morning to hear a woman preacher, a Ms. Washington.
I appreciate the invitation and under more ordinary circumstances would have joined her. As it all turned out, I had other ministries this day I was compelled to pursue.
I do hope Ms. Cole makes the acquaintance of my good Friend Nate Beckett soon in Collinsville. Hoping we can bring Bishop Elder Babb and the Madison Bumblebees from Winnsboro, South Carolina to the area soon to share the True Christian Pilgrimage as it appears some folks at the Church on the Hill Have Lost Their Way.
God Have Mercy on Us All.
There are Good people in the world however. Met a Retired Air Force Gentlemen recently from Arkansas who knew enough to appreciate George Truett. Got him reading Ron Rash as well. Told him about Collinsvillian Bud Oliver, McNamara and the Planer reeds. He got a smile out of that one.
Sfox
Aug 17 a Friday
Noticed today where Kelly Townsend had a big picture feature on the Collinsville Community Revival with quotes almost solely by Pastor John Morgan. Morgan's son, Joseph, now works for the paper in Ads, sources say.
Great picture. I recognized Mamie Moore--had occasion to speak to Mamie in the bank earlier this week, my friends Mary Jo Nelson and James Myers in a full house service from last year apparently, at COGOP Harvest Center.
I may seek communication with MOrgan and his wife later in the year for some conversation about my dismissal from the congregation; and possibly make a phone call this weekend to see if I would be welcome Sunday night, or be forsaken.
Aug 16
Here on the Day Elvis Died 30 years ago, I have been notified in another high trafficked forum a fresh wave of lurkers is coming here to take notice of my blog.
One thing they may want to consider is appointing a treasurer amongst themselves for the New Initiative in Collinsville to have Streetlights named for Notable Citizens.
My lamp for all practical purposes was snuffed out May 28 2006; but the light of my ancestry deserves to shine on. I am hoping folks with more means will contribute to celebrate the legacy of my Grandfather and Grandmother Jordan, folks of the virtue of Judge Frank Johnson and the Judge who overturned the Scottsboro Boys verdict for the good.
Momma's extended family on the Vanzant and Jordan side include a host of preachers, Non profit administrators, musicians, pharmacists, a former president of Huntington College Student Body, Doctors in Piedmont, Woodstock, Ga, Dewey Oklahoma, and Arizona, an international Opera Singer, an inner city elementary teacher of the Year, and a Cotton Bowl Queen.
At one time the Block in town diagonally across from the Baptist Church I can no longer set foot in was called the Jordan Block, right across the Street from the Barksdale Compound.
If we can come up with the funds, I think it most appropriate to go for the Light Stand on the East Corner of the Old Jordan block, almost in the Heart of Town, to the Left if you are facing Cook's Barber Shop.
Just something to consider.
As Wayne Flynt the noted Alabama Historian has said, one's truth often depends on What History you Believe.
I'll see if I can't get a link up for you.
There are pictures on the homepage of the town. Even a picture of the top of a light in question.
The Jordan/Vanzant post I am hoping would go in the foreground of the block there in the picture--yes, that is the old Jordan block they feature there--with the post standing pretty much on the front driver's side bumper of the white car in the foreground bottom left of the Mainstreet picture.
http://www.collinsvillealabama.net/
It is community Revival time again starting this Sunday, Aug. 19 evening in collinsville.
The First Service will be held at Collinsville Baptist, where they have a Magnificent Air Conditioning System, and A New Carpet and Pew Configuration thanks to my Friend Martha and her friends and great work in 94 or so; relatively new I guess
Will I be invited; Am I welcome. Has the COS d me long enough, marginalized me forever.
I hear a Deacon asked about my welfare Sunday, so there is some concern; I haven't been forgotten entirely. I appreciate it.
The Church of God Preacher is Preaching, Brother Brock. He is a good preacher, but if I am allowed in the doors, I may just stay for the congregational singing since that is the portion of the Service I enjoy the most.
As Deacon Marty Borntrager said soon after the proceedings of May 28 2006: Fox needs the Church. I don't disagree with him on the matter. I was only 7 votes short of renewal, and I think I could win a south county wide plebiscite though it could be close, a nail biter.
Maybe somebody could start a petition for Restoration.
One thing that wasn't made exactly clear the day I got voted out. I think it kinda sounded like I had thumbed my nose at the entire process, as it was said publicly I had failed to honor "The Last Straw".
I did miss the line by 24 hours or so and I regret that. I knocked on the deacon's door when they were deliberating seeking a time when we could get together and begin reconciliation.
Two major weddings had taken place in the community and I didn't want to sidetrack the goodwill and joy they deserved.
I relaxxed a little and missed the line.
I regret it.
Would be nice to be allowed to sing What a friend We Have In Jesus with the Community again, upwards of 97% I think I can get along with.
Why let 3% railroad me out through a series of misunderstandings?
And though It could be for all parties, as I have said since Jan 04, maybe as early as 03, I am ready on a well rested day maybe with some carrot salad and a fresh breeze, to sit down and talk with my Despisers, even offer a few apologies of my own.
My outrage, disappointment, came with observations of these folks working the shadows; getting 2nd parties to do their bidding.
That is not the Jesus way.
Hope things otherwise with you all are well.
Stephen Fox
Here is more of what I have been banned from, voted off the premises by Seven Votes; from a public Baptist discussion board, where they still think the Baptist legacy matters; unlike some who are now in positions of influence at the CBC
Welcome, Uncle Prentice--I counted Brer Fox's father Billy as a good friend and one of the finest ministers of the gospel I ever knew. You mentioned Robeson County NC--got some ancestral connections there, Turners and Barrentines.Lamar Wadsworth
Posts: 630
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:53 pm
Location: Rockmart GA (on a slippery slope, between Aragon and VanWert, 6 miles SW of Taylorsville)
Website Top
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PRENTICE SAYS,
by PRENTICE on Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:04 pm
Lamar, you are 100% right about my brother Billy. His message was authentic, and his compassion was genuine. Billy and I both have a tendency to tears; but we were not ashamed for more often than not they were tears of Joy. Billy's tears were not like those of some televangelists who are able to instantaneously cry on cue; Billy's tears were from his heart for all mankind.
Billy bore malice toward no man. He passed from this life into Glory on 2 August 1999. The family had his funeral at First Baptist Church of Collinsville, AL. His wife, Louise, was baptized in that church. The church was completely full. People drove down from TN and over from GA, SC and NC He was loved by all who knew him; and he set a paradigm for us all to follow. But Billy did snore.
sfox>Testimony from Billy's Brother, Prentice
My Mother was baptized in that church along with her Mother back about 1936 or so, Her Mother Arrie Lula Vanzant coming over from the Methodists. Momma's funeral was August 19, 1988. She maybe had more at her funeral than Dad.
If my funeral is held in that church, the family will have to come up with 35 dollars to rent the facilities. Considerably less people will be in attendance, I imagine.
A footnote.
Lamar Wadsworth is a good man. He has written a Novel, People of This Covenant I heartily recommend for all church libraries as Senior groups in particular will find it endearing.
Sfox
posted by foxofbama | 1:11 PM
2 Comments:
Foxy,
Why not just man-up and attend the Community Revival? Put your church clothes on, walk through the door, sit down, sing the songs, and keep quiet. No church could bar you from that. It's a COMMUNITY revival after all....
BDiddy: Thanks for reply on this very important matter. Please say hello to Becky Kennedy out there at Baylor as this is her Home church.
BAck in the Spring of 06 she told me she had no problem me mentioning her as a supporter of Women in Ministry, somethingthat got me in a lot of trouble one evening discussion service with some of the folks who run the church; me broaching her name in that regard. She said she had no problem with that.
I am hoping some otherfolkswillmake some supportive comments
SFox
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