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Born May 18, 1953; got saved at Truett Memorial BC in Hayesville, NC 1959. On rigged ballot which I did not rig got Most Intellectual class of 71, Gaffney High School. Furman Grad, Sociology major but it was little tougher than Auburn football players had Had three dates with beautiful women the summer of 1978. Did not marry any of em. Never married anybody cause what was available was undesirable and what was desirable was unaffordable. Unlucky in love as they say and even still it is sometimes heartbreaking. Had a Pakistani Jr. Davis Cupper on the Ropes the summer of 84, City Courts, Rome Georgia I've a baby sitter, watched peoples homes while they were away on Vacation. Freelance writer, local consultant, screenwriter, and the best damn substitute teacher of Floyd County Georgia in mid 80's according to an anonymous kid passed me on main street a few years later when I went back to get a sandwich at Schroeders. Had some good moments in Collinsville as well. Ask Casey Mattox at if he will be honest about it. I try my best to make it to Bridges BBQ in Shelby NC at least four times a year.

Friday, May 09, 2008

Of cudgel and cupboard, Obama and Bonhoeffer

Got my Report from the Capitol Today, the newsjournal of the Baptist Joint Committee Church State Watch dog group.
Brent Walker had a great piece on proper lens to view political candidates when it comes to the idiosyncracies of various preachers in their lives.
Brent said:

Learning something about candidates’ faith helps us to get to know who they are, understand what makes them tick, and examine what their moral code is like. A free and fluid discussion in the public square about a candidate’s religious convictions is not out of bounds and can enrich the public discourse during election season.
But it can also serve as a cudgel.
It is vitally important that the discussion about a candidate’s religion goes somewhere. It is not at all helpful — and is often hurtful — to have a theological discussion isolated from policy and governance. There must always be an inquiry launched and close connection made about how candidate’s religious views impact his or her public policy position or leadership style. Otherwise an examination of a candidate’s religion is little more than spiritual voyeurism and violates the spirit if not the letter of the clause banning religious tests."

I Like is use of the word cudgel.
Earlier, Tuesday week ago at Samford's Beeson divinity school, Tubingen, Germany Bonhoeffer Scholar Johannes Schwanke in reply to a question posed by me after his magnificent address on the Fragment stages of Bonhoeffer's Pilgrimage said he, Schwanke, refused to put Bonhoeffer in a "cupboard."
I didn't understand what he said at first and when I asked him again, the word sounded pitch perfect in my ear for the point he was making.
Even so easily googled articles by Damon Linker on Charles Marsh "The Idolatry of America" at the New Republic, April 23 Print issue; and yesterday's effort by Robert Parham at open up the discussion widely to review the way Richard Land and Timothy George of the Rove/Bush administration have abused the righteous sentiments of Middle America in this discussion.
In particular George's abuse of the Barmen Declaration--a point I tried to make in Sunday School at Collinsville Baptist Church in regard the pastor's former proff Paul Simmons and how George thinking was a precipitator for Simmons dismissal--George's prostitution of the Barmen Declaration is unconscionable.
Parham undergirds such an assertion in this article of yesterday.
I concede Linker takes the measure of Marsh and how we can never get anything done in this world if we get too otherwordly; even so lot hear to think about.

An aside, I do wish the snits, the anonymous commenters on this blog who have become mosquitoes on the ass of my discourse at this blog would take a hike on this discussion.
I was gonna take something of a holiday here on Mother's Day weekend, as my Mother had many disappointments, but I think she would applaud my ruminations here.

Stephen Fox
With apologies to another great woman in addition to Momma, my HS Advanced English Teacher who wrote in my annual:
No need to Wish you Success, it's a given.

Well not exactly in my case, but strong words for you to consider above in this righteous political moment in America and for that I do not apologize.


Anonymous Anonymous said... has great conflation of the Evangelical Manifesto as well.
Timothy George and Richard Land will not fly with this one.
Barmen Declaration cannot be abused in this fashion without consequences and Jim Wallis I imagine will concur when it is brought to his attention

1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOB, for once you are right. This is an historical moment of change. Brent Walker's views on a proper lens to view political candidates is paramount insight into our national nuance. He states with courage that learning WHAT A CANDIDATE'S MORAL CODE IS, is VITAL.This directly applies to Barak Obama and his ties with the terrorist, William Ayres; and with his 20 year membership in the church of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Certainly, the discerning voter will know right away that Obama is not a viable candidate for the Commander-in-Chief when his Pastor condemns America, and his close associate is a known terrist. Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing, saith the Lord God Almighty. Anon Emus.

5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indeed, you are right FOB; but your "Advanced" Teacher was very wrong. Success is never given; it has to be earned the old fashioned way. By sweat and Hard Work, just like Hillary is doing today, and next week in West Virginia and Kentucky. You mentioned Bonhoeffer. He was Hanged on this very day in 1945 in Flossenburg, in Eastern Bavaria near the Czech Border. As he was led out to the gallows, he said to his fellow prisoners, "This is the end, but for me it is the beginning of Life." It can be Life for you too, if you take Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. Do it before it is too late, FOB; for your days are numbered by the Almighty and Righteous God in Heaven. Find you a good Bible Believin' SBC Church, and drown yourself in the Grace of God like Francis Schaffer and Max Lucado did. Anon Emus II.

5:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Tain't no need to apoligize to yo' teacher, foxsedit. It won't her fault. She done the best she could wit what she had; and you done give her ought to work wif. You mite try goin' back to rehab English and learn yoself how to right, like Jeremiah Wright did; and you could do the funcky chicken dance with him and Hussein 'Bama. Anon Emus III

5:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never before in the history of the internets has there been a more perfect marriage of blogger and commenters. I'm glad to know there's finally a place to round you all up. Enjoy one another, I'm sure Godot will be here any minute.

11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

e: Manifesto for Ben Cole and Bdiddy/SBC Resolution????
by William Thornton on Fri May 09, 2008 8:09 pm

Two paragraphs...twenty-two people mentioned. Gotta be some kind of award for name dropping.

Well asfoxseesit it looks like your banning friend is keeping a close eye on you and your posting habits-Maybe you will be the next to go-

"What a tangled web we weave when first asfoxseesit practices to decieve"

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Deceiver you are, FOB. For such a time as this, you have done arrived hier in the nation to pronounce the death sentence upon Husak Obama for after Tuesday in W. VA; rigor mortis has done sit upon him and Mizes OBAMUH and the entire entourage of his lustful campaign. As far as your investments are concerned, I suggest you buy yousef some confederate $$$ rite now, and watch the South rize, and the sun set on Barak and his beastly battalliones. Anon Emus IV

5:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indeed, GODOT DOTH COME! And the Parousia is imminent and Redemption draweth nigh. Is Obama the Anti-Christ? Not according to Dr. John Hagee; but Barak comes mighty close, and the Witches of Endor are right behind him, and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse will be in his Cabinet, and don't be surprized if he chooses Mrs. "Heinz" Kerry as his Veep. That is planned to make John Edwards frickin' mad, and he may vote for John McCain after all. How about you, FAUKS Sieze IT? Switch over to Hillary and be on the winning team ! ANON EMUS, JR.

6:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know who Godot is; but Jesus Christ, THE WAY, the Truth and The Life said, "I will come again." Gen. Douglas McArthur said the same thing. Jesus' coming will happen, and it may be soon . "Soon, and very soon, we are going to see the King." "There's a great day coming by and by, and the saints and sinners shall be parted right and left. ARE YOU READY for that Day to Come?

6:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did any of you drop a watermellon on Mother's Day?

9:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Gary have cornerstones in mind when he said this?:

"Having been in situations similar to this, when you have been a member of a congregation through 2 or more Pastors, or all your life, you feel that it is "your church", not "the Pastor's church". Thus, you tend to fight for what you think is yours.

As Red Green would say, "it may not be smart or correct", but that is how most folks would act.

It is all very sad, regardless.

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
- Galileo Galilei

9:43 AM  

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