The Pope, Bishop Willimon, SenSessions, MattMorgan
The Pope is meeting with President Bush today to talk about immigration reform.
Some are handicapping the conversation as a push for Power for Catholics on the continent since Mexico is highly Catholic; about as strong Catholic as Alabama is Baptist.
Could be an interesting discussion.
How will United Methodist Bishop of Alabama Will Willimon, the former Chaplain at Duke process and translate the Discussion. Will he have a conversation with Senator Sessions about it. Will he bring Collinsville native Matthew Morgan down from his offices in NYC to translate it to Collinsville Baptist Church and the area.
James Coker was profiled recently in the Ft. Payne Times-Journal for his work with youth sports programs. I congratulated James on the article and told him my Dad woulda been proud of him.
MOnday two weeks ago fascinating segment on PBS Newshour about scholarships for college for Hispanic graduates who are among the brightest of the class of 2008.
I will link that article for you to read as well as some of the comments of Coker from his article and hope maybe we can have a civil, honest, something approaching a Christian conversation about it here in Alabama.
Matthew, need your help here. Would like you to engage this conversation here on this board if you could be so kind.
I went to the Library back in 04 for you. Maybe you could return the favor.
James Coker in Times-Journal
The Cokers have long-time ties to Collinsville, and James Coker believes the mix of whites, blacks and Hispanics that make up the student body is good for all who attend.“This is where my father, mother, myself and my four brothers and sisters got their education,” he said. “My five children have gotten the majority of their education here. Education is what you put into it. I think our multi-cultured student population is a strong point. It teaches you how to get along with everyone in life.”
from:
http://times-journal.com/story.lasso?ewcd=e624a3ae4f1b89e2
PBS Newshour Article:
LEE HOCHBERG: There are two issues. In some places, the argument is whether undocumented students who have grown up in the U.S. should be allowed to pay the lower tuition reserved for state residents. This Arizona legislator said no.
RUSSELL PEARCE (R), Arizona State Representative: You can't come here and get free jobs, you know, have jobs waiting for you, free health, free medical, free education, and expect people not to come. You have got to -- you have got to shut down the spigot.
LEE HOCHBERG: In 2006, Arizona outlawed in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. Four thousand of them then saw their bills triple, and many dropped out. Colorado, Florida, Georgia, and Virginia also ban in-state tuition for undocumented students.
And legislation to do the same has been introduced in California, Utah, Kansas, North Carolina, Maryland, and New Hampshire. And there's another issue: financial aid. Arizona lawmakers prohibited illegal immigrants from getting state-funded financial aid.
Washington State has chosen a middle course. Undocumented students cannot receive state grants or loans, but, here, and in eight other states, those that have been residents for several years can go to college on in-state tuition if they promise to seek American citizenship if that becomes possible.
later in the transcript:
LEE HOCHBERG: Last year, the Washington State legislature considered a bill to allow financial aid for undocumented students. It died in committee.
Travis Reindl, of the Jobs for the Future research organization, thinks states should realize both tuition subsidies and financial aid are worth it in the long run.
TRAVIS REINDL, Education Analyst: When you consider that states spend collectively $80 billion on higher education, we're really not talking about a big dollar figure here.
LEE HOCHBERG: New Mexico and Texas are now funding such financial aid. For Texas, it's less than 1 percent of its overall expenditures on student aid, but it's still a hard sell for most states.
TRAVIS REINDL: It is difficult enough to make the argument for eligibility for in-state tuition. To say that aid dollars go directly to the student on top of that for undocumented students is virtually politically radioactive.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/social_issues/jan-june08/immigrants_04-07.html
Some are handicapping the conversation as a push for Power for Catholics on the continent since Mexico is highly Catholic; about as strong Catholic as Alabama is Baptist.
Could be an interesting discussion.
How will United Methodist Bishop of Alabama Will Willimon, the former Chaplain at Duke process and translate the Discussion. Will he have a conversation with Senator Sessions about it. Will he bring Collinsville native Matthew Morgan down from his offices in NYC to translate it to Collinsville Baptist Church and the area.
James Coker was profiled recently in the Ft. Payne Times-Journal for his work with youth sports programs. I congratulated James on the article and told him my Dad woulda been proud of him.
MOnday two weeks ago fascinating segment on PBS Newshour about scholarships for college for Hispanic graduates who are among the brightest of the class of 2008.
I will link that article for you to read as well as some of the comments of Coker from his article and hope maybe we can have a civil, honest, something approaching a Christian conversation about it here in Alabama.
Matthew, need your help here. Would like you to engage this conversation here on this board if you could be so kind.
I went to the Library back in 04 for you. Maybe you could return the favor.
James Coker in Times-Journal
The Cokers have long-time ties to Collinsville, and James Coker believes the mix of whites, blacks and Hispanics that make up the student body is good for all who attend.“This is where my father, mother, myself and my four brothers and sisters got their education,” he said. “My five children have gotten the majority of their education here. Education is what you put into it. I think our multi-cultured student population is a strong point. It teaches you how to get along with everyone in life.”
from:
http://times-journal.com/story.lasso?ewcd=e624a3ae4f1b89e2
PBS Newshour Article:
LEE HOCHBERG: There are two issues. In some places, the argument is whether undocumented students who have grown up in the U.S. should be allowed to pay the lower tuition reserved for state residents. This Arizona legislator said no.
RUSSELL PEARCE (R), Arizona State Representative: You can't come here and get free jobs, you know, have jobs waiting for you, free health, free medical, free education, and expect people not to come. You have got to -- you have got to shut down the spigot.
LEE HOCHBERG: In 2006, Arizona outlawed in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. Four thousand of them then saw their bills triple, and many dropped out. Colorado, Florida, Georgia, and Virginia also ban in-state tuition for undocumented students.
And legislation to do the same has been introduced in California, Utah, Kansas, North Carolina, Maryland, and New Hampshire. And there's another issue: financial aid. Arizona lawmakers prohibited illegal immigrants from getting state-funded financial aid.
Washington State has chosen a middle course. Undocumented students cannot receive state grants or loans, but, here, and in eight other states, those that have been residents for several years can go to college on in-state tuition if they promise to seek American citizenship if that becomes possible.
later in the transcript:
LEE HOCHBERG: Last year, the Washington State legislature considered a bill to allow financial aid for undocumented students. It died in committee.
Travis Reindl, of the Jobs for the Future research organization, thinks states should realize both tuition subsidies and financial aid are worth it in the long run.
TRAVIS REINDL, Education Analyst: When you consider that states spend collectively $80 billion on higher education, we're really not talking about a big dollar figure here.
LEE HOCHBERG: New Mexico and Texas are now funding such financial aid. For Texas, it's less than 1 percent of its overall expenditures on student aid, but it's still a hard sell for most states.
TRAVIS REINDL: It is difficult enough to make the argument for eligibility for in-state tuition. To say that aid dollars go directly to the student on top of that for undocumented students is virtually politically radioactive.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/social_issues/jan-june08/immigrants_04-07.html
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Gettin some views on this one, though I already had to delete one.
Got some feedback via email from New York City, the ole Big Apple.
So Jackson County, Ga and the Big one.
Who'll be next?
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