Willimon, Buncombe St UMC and One Battle After Another

    The  last ten days or som I hve been engrosed by Bishop and Chaplain Will Willimom  of Duke, Wofford and North Alabama and his book of August The Church we Carry. The following blog is random but the substance of the matter is reviewed at the Advocate, a podcast Plainspoken interview with Willimon and a scorching look at Willimon by Talbot Davis at Baptist News Global. Davis is a an Asbury Seminary grad and pastor in Charlotte in the vein of Ben Milstead of the voice of Clemson athletics The Roar.

      I hope there is further exploration of the matter by secular media to explore just how sophisticated and savvy the rightwingers at Buncombe Street who drove the disaffiliation of the historic, wealthy and influential congreatation in fact are. Willimon who was raised in the church, says there was a lot of secrecy and misinformation among the driving forces of the malcontents.

   I wonder how they fare compared to the christian nationalionalists in the movie One Battle After Anoter. The Movie is recently reviewed in the NY Rev of Books. Would be interesting to see how the influencers at Buncombe Street line up, and even if these savvy professionals in the eyes of Talbot Daivs can disinguish between their ass and a Hole in the ground in the larger contxt. I imagine Talbot churh in Charlotte  is aware of the implications in the world of Trump and this movie.

    Even less aware is my judgment on the FUMC of Guntersville Alabama who voted to break ties with the Wofford and Duke Brand of  Methodism. There are pockets of grand people in both congregations, but Guntersville Trumpers have all the markings of lobbyist for the gun Lobby.

   Interesting to note that Katie Britt, the former SGA president of U bama and member in good standing of the FUMC Montgomery Alabama doesnt say much about her standing in that congregation who voted to stay with Willimon Methodism. At same time FUMC Auburn voted to bail out but recently udge said the property and the money in the church stays with Willimon and the 40 or so who voted remain mainstream

   The vote at Buncombe met the two thirds majority to disaffiate roughty 663 to 307

 Will Williman the former Bishop in Alabama for about seven years chap at Duke longtime trustee at Wofford friend of my friend Tommy Brittain, who was chair of the trustees at Wofford about 10 years ago he has a big law firm in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina and his sister Was an influential pastor outside Davidson, North Carolina for some years in the best of the Methodist tradition of what I am about to report sounds like it had a lot of residence in the first United Methodist Church of Guntersville, Alabama likewise a fairly wealthy and influential congregation in North Alabama so there is a great interview Analysis of Willie‘s new book. The ch  The Church We Carry  at the advocate, which is a Methodist news reporting concern take a look at it. Also podcast interview with Willman at plain spoken. The last 30 minutes gets right down to the real nitty-gritty roughly Williman born in 1949 or maybe 46. I think he graduated from Wofford so between 65 and 69, which would make him six at least six years older than me so Willimon he was other things fascinated with the lynching of really Earl. He was one year old when that happened and he did a big conference at Wofford about six years ago on the lynching of Willie Earl a back in September there was an hour and a half discussion of his new book at Furman and then a few days later at Wofford

     and then this upcoming weekend at a large United Methodist Church in Columbia so Willimom  spent about a year after his church that shaped him BUNCOMBE Methodist Church in Greenville LA One of the wealthiest and most influential Methodist churches state of South Carolina according to Willimon , a group of right wing Methodist. I met secretly and spent a lot of of misinformation and it was brought to a vote and they voted to withdraw from the historic Methodist Church and go with there’s a name for the global Methodist Church or something they’re calling themselves so this was a punch in the gut for Willie, who was had his tractors, especially as his time in the bishop as a bishop in Alabama, but he did in 2010 so take a strong stand for immigration and compared the law that was a past in Alabama as comparable to the decisions on slavery during the civil war, specially I know I can’t think of it right now the decision it gave robbery among other people to cross into northern territory and Gather up escape slave so Wilman, for whatever you say about him is on the side of Harriet Tubman as disposed and Abraham Lincoln and judge Frank Johnson to the historic witness of George Wallace and Strom, Thurman and and Robert Lee, if you investigate the nuances, etc., etc. so of course this is comparable to some things that happened in Baptist churches did the nomination I think of all episode when Rocky Purvis, who became a trustee at Furman when they had the big vote for Furman to separate from South Carolina Baptist, when Jerry vines came to Southeastern seminary in 1987 Rocky was a student there after graduating from Furman and he had a secret meeting with jerry vines  and people of the peace committee it was vines. He became a pastor at Jacksonville, Florida thoroughly marinated in the fundamentalism and the takeover of the SBC and a mentor to Tim Tebow‘s mother who was the eagle forum woman of the year in 2018 so it appears that Williman was facing that mentality at this church in Greenville right off their famous Main Street and it was a similar mentality that he faced down that he was disturbed outraged about 30 years after the fun is taken over the southern Baptist convention. What are the thing about Rocky? He had a brother I think his name is Paul who is president the student government association at Furman in the early 1990s and they pause about as disgusting as Katie Britt the senator from Alabama who is complicit with Donald Trump and all his shenanigans she was the president of the student government association at University of Alabama so there’s a lot of ways to compare this mentality and finding another traditions and even in a secular politics and there’s a lot of overlay with the secular politics I haven’t read Willman‘s book yet I doubt he can connect these people to the Heritage foundation Which is a rabbit in certain pockets in upstate South Carolina, but it seems to have that same kind of mentality in there seeing in scripture I believe in a scripture bubbles up to these conversations about sexuality and which has a similar mindset to originalist interpretation of the constitution so I talk about that a little bit in my recent blog on authentic Baptist, so Williman‘s out there he’s 82 year old man now it was a punch in the gut and I’m gonna link this to the Facebook page of the Collinsville United Methodist Church Willimon spoke there about 2007 the Baptist pastors of John Morgan who died earlier this year his son Mark went to Duke and had some conversations with Williman. Mark now lives in Fort Payne, Alabama about 15 miles up the road from the red light at the Baptist Church in Collinsville, where my mother was baptizedso

Family history with heat on cold nights

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Tjis is a blog on the fly. Come back later if you cant take it cause it could be more presentable at maybe a tenth grade level as opposed to current application for ei  eighth graders.

   I have a kidney doctor friend in Arkansas who likes to wane nostalgic on these matters and maybe he will contribute. He is  currently engrossed with family letters from Plain dealing Louisiana 

at if you could do the honors in hit me up soon as possible another dictated instant dictate text for instant blog about heating systems with the cold last night down in the 20s. I was thinking about different heat over the years is turned out. I didn’t know my heater was on, but it’s 60. It knocked to chill off but When I got into bed last night, I thought I had a little hypothermia but my senior sister Marsha I think before I left Alabama to give me a heated quilt a small one and I got that from my toes and I know it with my down comforter and one of mom‘s quilt size double later almost sweating and sweating tonight, but I was very warm The thermometer for me as if my nose starts freezing, getting cold as it did several occasions in Alabama, January and February I had a I had a heated quilt dammit anyway and then a quilt but my nose stick my nose up had a toboggan on and almost freeze some nights in the teens in the 20s. I did have some Space heaters at that front room pretty much lockdown. You just need to run room warm if you have to think about it, my central heat got blown out by lightning strike in August 2000 I was in the library in Collinsville. I heard the strike and said that sure enough 3003 miles down the road and knocked out my heat in my Water my pump so about seven years after that I was living in third world as I did for the last 10 years in Collinsville. It reminded me my grandfather said there’s a big house in Walden Creek community outside pigeon Forge two-story thing I think he said 12 fireplaces in that house but it was at least six so I mean you weren’t getting cold air and then the Little small place for my grandmother helping and grew up with her sister and nine brothers and mom and dad they had a heater I made a fireplace that’s how they stayed warm you know they let it have nothing of a night and then I guess when I get up at 5 o’clock in the morning get that thing fired up so whatever they were, they were warm when we went over to see uncle Prentice couple years ago at October when his son Neil was down from Alaska Tim Wood my cousin me there he said he remembered these about 11 year old boy Maybe younger than that he was in the bed with Prentice and our oldest cousin Harold Simmons apprentice Wood was eight years older than Harold so I don’t know Harold would’ve been 10 so I guess Prentice would’ve been in room 1418 but Tim was in that bed at grandmother Helton. He didn’t say anything about the time of the year or a fireplace But yeah that was one of the lights to go to see my grandfather‘s sleeping out back in his small house on that rollaway bed where for the fireplace was I was just that’s good and Gaffney corset and they get cool in the evening and turn it down. We had those quilts Yeah uncle Bill uncle Bill had a good system across the road from Alabama. He had a he had a big heater in the front room that run on gas roll electricity so it’s electricity went out. You could just run it on gas and down stairs. He had a heater at a wood heater down there so can you get that thing up 90° is how many electricity went out and they got cold a big snowstorm of 93 I got over to his house and downstairs there yeah do you know it was there was he had it warm 90° that’s weird. They didn’t have a tub or shower up to 2000. That’s where he do his wash the buckets and hot water off that stove as it could be was Marsha’s big adventure with her cousins and clean up in tubs of hot water downstairs knuckle Bill‘s room. He got upset with them one time they got too much water on his concrete floor down there that was remarkable house I Yeah you gotta move on and go to other places so that’s my he and their stories for this morning and maybe by the time I revise my blog and Scoular I’m sure Kevin will on the way in on this. She’s been nostalgic here lately on Facebook. OK I’ll be looking for this when I get to a computer maybe later on in the day I made it through that it’s a 42 is always getting to 41 now I think it’s still in the 20s weather man saying here in upstate South Carolina but it’s gonna get up to 60 more so looks like in the survived this little episode.

National Fundamentalist inluencer and Furman grad does not think ML King was a Christian

 Allie Beth Stuckey a product of the Christian Nationalist Prestonwood Baptist Church in Dallas Texas and 2013 grad and commencement speaker at the alma Mater of Marshal Frady, Furman University, concludes ML King was not a Christian. A great friend of Charlie Kirk, she thinks King to be an impostor in a recent interview of a Black pastor who shares her view.

    Frady wrote a biography of King that to me reads like Scripture and came to a different conclusion.

     I know Furman is not in the business of denouncing graduates, but if they ever do she is a prime candidate. She certainly is no Tomiko Brown Nagin who is working on a new book about growing up in Greenwood SC and her extended Mixed race family. Tomiko is now Dean at Radcliffe.

     I hope Tomiko and Stuckey and Furman historian Ainsley Quiros with a Vandy PHD can talk about this within in the year.  Quiros PHD was about King and the Civil rights days in  Americus and Albany Georgia with an episode on Warren Fortson who Frady wrote about nationally in the sixties.