10-15/Bama Poverty Initiative: Little something for both Stout and Barron
Monday Oct 16 update:
John Harris and Mark Halperin were on book TV last night hawking their new book about the Bush and Clinton Dynasties and the Clinton vs Rove strategies. Stout's apparent ignorance about what has happenned in the Southern Baptist Convention the last 25 years the orchestration between leading fundamentalists in the SBC including Richard Land of the ERLC with Karl Rove, leads me to believe he is a distinction without a difference, especially when his wife in emails references the experience of Jesus cleaning the temple of the moneychangers as a parable for Barron's 400% Pay day loan schemes.
Both the activity of Barron in the Pay Day loans as well as the ignorance of Stout about the political games being played with his own denomination have ill consequences. The ignorance that leads to sinister political consequences, may lead to more evil than Barron's willful engagement in usury.
I don't have all the answers. Here in Alabama I am betting the wisdom of the likes of Tom Corts, Wayne Flynt and the late Bailey Thompson and their passion for Constitutional Reform is a big step in the right direction. Barron is lukewarm on the idea, and I have no indication Stout has given it much thought. No do I have any reason to believe either one of them are about to bring www.alarise.org into to their inner council.
As the books I have been listing and offering for discussion at www.baptistlife.com/forums shout, something is absymally wrong in our great Country. I don't see Barron or Stout engaging any ideas, don't see them to have a vision that engage any remedy here in Bama that could help us regionally, or being part of a building foundation block that could make a difference for out national ills.
Maybe Randy Owen's wife can fix it all.
Do Google up The Way to Win and read the extensive Washington Post analysis with the book about the fourth entry down.
Sfox
A correction. Friday I allowed I understood Stout's daughter to be a missionary with the SBC IMB. That turns out not to be the case. I apologize for the error.
Mid Friday in October
Couple items and then today's devotional.
Lowell Barron will be discussed statewide tonight on www.aptv.org/ftr as news editors statewide review the week in Alabama. Barron's Payday loan turnaround is one of the items promoted in the teaser for tonight's show.
Informants on main street collinsville say Barron is expected at the HS football game tonight, and there is some juice in the air Barron may be hitching to his wagon and up and coming Baptist comet whose Mah Fiburr still may be developing. Abramoffs are everywhere, and you never know where the next Karl Rove as Richard Land as Karl Rove may come from.
And for that something for both Stout and Barron to consider, their staffs, friends in Baptist life and out and the JSU and Auburn Trustees. Great links embedded, especially for anyone who cares enough about our region and nation to context it all in the wisdom of Balmer and Edsall in Thy Kingdom Come and Building Red America.
www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=8017
Consider how Chic Fil A and the atty gen's race in next door Georgia fits in the equation with this great link; www.baptistlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3290 CFA's former corporate atty Perry McGuire is running for the sister seat in Ga. now held in Bama by Troy King, foe of BWA and member of FBC Mgomery where he stands in opposition to his pastor on BFM 2000 as well.
How it all shakes down with Randy Brinson and the April Wash Monthly article Would Jesus Bolt is for who to say. Easy to google that one up; would hope the Stout team in particular would take a look.
Barron and Stout both, whoever wins this contest, need to put high on their agenda for the region a tour with Nick Foster, recently named head of the Alabama Poverty Initiative. I would suggest with Foster, Bishop Willimon, the Morgan son Matthew of Yale and his Brother John of Habitat for Humanity, they take a tour of the trailer court metropolis of Kilpatrick, Alabama, as well as similar housing areas in Collinsville and Ft. Payne.
Kilpatrick is the feeder population for Crossville, Alabama which just two weeks ago made front page of the Birmingham News as Hispanic Influx pushing the local school's coping capacity to the limit.
Monday night, Oct 9, the Collinsville Planning Commission adopted new guidelines for any new developments within 5 miles of the City Limits. Four Baptists, one a deacon who has a substantial trailer park of his own paved within the city limits; a womanwho is a liaison of sorts I think it fair to say to the Quilt Walk community; and another a brother of a retired progressive administrator in his time of the Baptist Home Mission Board; all members of the church where my Mother was baptized, these folks passed regulations to maintain a certain level of life in the town.
Whether in their minds this calls for leverage on exisiting developments within this area, whether roads should be paved in other trailer parks, and what the MOrgan sons and Nick Foster would consider as remedies or matters of Christian Conscience, who is to say here just a few weeks before the election.
ABout the spring of 2001 Matthew was in Sunday School down from the University of Virginia, maybe before or just after his semester in Peru and talked about systemic injustice.
Whether there is the political will in the rest of his family or former church congregation to work in concert with Nick Foster, Lowell Barron and Don Stout remains to be seen. And it would be interesting to add Tom Corts and www.Alarise.org
wisdom on Constitutional Reform into the Equation as well; to see what the realpolitik in Matthew of Yale, and Bobby Welch of the SBC's stomping grounds are.
The petri dish is here. I doubt they have time to get to it all on For the Record Tonight, but if the conversation is not started now, then when, and if the illustrious Morgan boys and their academic pedigree is not sufficient to salt and light the conversation with Nick Foster, Barron and Stout, then who. Is there anything Casey Mattox of www.clsnet.org can add, or takeaway?
I have been voted off the church property so there is not a whole lot I can do about the situation.
In Christ's Name
Stephen Fox
John Harris and Mark Halperin were on book TV last night hawking their new book about the Bush and Clinton Dynasties and the Clinton vs Rove strategies. Stout's apparent ignorance about what has happenned in the Southern Baptist Convention the last 25 years the orchestration between leading fundamentalists in the SBC including Richard Land of the ERLC with Karl Rove, leads me to believe he is a distinction without a difference, especially when his wife in emails references the experience of Jesus cleaning the temple of the moneychangers as a parable for Barron's 400% Pay day loan schemes.
Both the activity of Barron in the Pay Day loans as well as the ignorance of Stout about the political games being played with his own denomination have ill consequences. The ignorance that leads to sinister political consequences, may lead to more evil than Barron's willful engagement in usury.
I don't have all the answers. Here in Alabama I am betting the wisdom of the likes of Tom Corts, Wayne Flynt and the late Bailey Thompson and their passion for Constitutional Reform is a big step in the right direction. Barron is lukewarm on the idea, and I have no indication Stout has given it much thought. No do I have any reason to believe either one of them are about to bring www.alarise.org into to their inner council.
As the books I have been listing and offering for discussion at www.baptistlife.com/forums shout, something is absymally wrong in our great Country. I don't see Barron or Stout engaging any ideas, don't see them to have a vision that engage any remedy here in Bama that could help us regionally, or being part of a building foundation block that could make a difference for out national ills.
Maybe Randy Owen's wife can fix it all.
Do Google up The Way to Win and read the extensive Washington Post analysis with the book about the fourth entry down.
Sfox
A correction. Friday I allowed I understood Stout's daughter to be a missionary with the SBC IMB. That turns out not to be the case. I apologize for the error.
Mid Friday in October
Couple items and then today's devotional.
Lowell Barron will be discussed statewide tonight on www.aptv.org/ftr as news editors statewide review the week in Alabama. Barron's Payday loan turnaround is one of the items promoted in the teaser for tonight's show.
Informants on main street collinsville say Barron is expected at the HS football game tonight, and there is some juice in the air Barron may be hitching to his wagon and up and coming Baptist comet whose Mah Fiburr still may be developing. Abramoffs are everywhere, and you never know where the next Karl Rove as Richard Land as Karl Rove may come from.
And for that something for both Stout and Barron to consider, their staffs, friends in Baptist life and out and the JSU and Auburn Trustees. Great links embedded, especially for anyone who cares enough about our region and nation to context it all in the wisdom of Balmer and Edsall in Thy Kingdom Come and Building Red America.
www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=8017
Consider how Chic Fil A and the atty gen's race in next door Georgia fits in the equation with this great link; www.baptistlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3290 CFA's former corporate atty Perry McGuire is running for the sister seat in Ga. now held in Bama by Troy King, foe of BWA and member of FBC Mgomery where he stands in opposition to his pastor on BFM 2000 as well.
How it all shakes down with Randy Brinson and the April Wash Monthly article Would Jesus Bolt is for who to say. Easy to google that one up; would hope the Stout team in particular would take a look.
Barron and Stout both, whoever wins this contest, need to put high on their agenda for the region a tour with Nick Foster, recently named head of the Alabama Poverty Initiative. I would suggest with Foster, Bishop Willimon, the Morgan son Matthew of Yale and his Brother John of Habitat for Humanity, they take a tour of the trailer court metropolis of Kilpatrick, Alabama, as well as similar housing areas in Collinsville and Ft. Payne.
Kilpatrick is the feeder population for Crossville, Alabama which just two weeks ago made front page of the Birmingham News as Hispanic Influx pushing the local school's coping capacity to the limit.
Monday night, Oct 9, the Collinsville Planning Commission adopted new guidelines for any new developments within 5 miles of the City Limits. Four Baptists, one a deacon who has a substantial trailer park of his own paved within the city limits; a womanwho is a liaison of sorts I think it fair to say to the Quilt Walk community; and another a brother of a retired progressive administrator in his time of the Baptist Home Mission Board; all members of the church where my Mother was baptized, these folks passed regulations to maintain a certain level of life in the town.
Whether in their minds this calls for leverage on exisiting developments within this area, whether roads should be paved in other trailer parks, and what the MOrgan sons and Nick Foster would consider as remedies or matters of Christian Conscience, who is to say here just a few weeks before the election.
ABout the spring of 2001 Matthew was in Sunday School down from the University of Virginia, maybe before or just after his semester in Peru and talked about systemic injustice.
Whether there is the political will in the rest of his family or former church congregation to work in concert with Nick Foster, Lowell Barron and Don Stout remains to be seen. And it would be interesting to add Tom Corts and www.Alarise.org
wisdom on Constitutional Reform into the Equation as well; to see what the realpolitik in Matthew of Yale, and Bobby Welch of the SBC's stomping grounds are.
The petri dish is here. I doubt they have time to get to it all on For the Record Tonight, but if the conversation is not started now, then when, and if the illustrious Morgan boys and their academic pedigree is not sufficient to salt and light the conversation with Nick Foster, Barron and Stout, then who. Is there anything Casey Mattox of www.clsnet.org can add, or takeaway?
I have been voted off the church property so there is not a whole lot I can do about the situation.
In Christ's Name
Stephen Fox
posted by foxofbama | 2:20 PM
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Check the board of directors at www.alabamapoverty.org
Who will be the first contestant in this race, Barron's Senate Race, to pledge with the good Christians at Collinsville Baptist and FBC Ft Payne that they will engage the conversation with these folks in prophetic Christian witness to help Matthew Morgan with systemic inequities?????
Corretion:
It has come to my attention I was mistaken about a matter in the text above and need to make a correction.
The Stouts, while Devout Baptists, active at FBC Ft. Payne with Alabama Republican Committeewoman Mary Anne Cole; The Stouts Do Not have a daughter who is a missionary with the SBC IMB.
My mistake and I am happy to correct it. My apologies
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