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Born May 18, 1953; got saved at Truett Memorial BC in Hayesville, NC 1959. On rigged ballot which I did not rig got Most Intellectual class of 71, Gaffney High School. Furman Grad, Sociology major but it was little tougher than Auburn football players had Had three dates with beautiful women the summer of 1978. Did not marry any of em. Never married anybody cause what was available was undesirable and what was desirable was unaffordable. Unlucky in love as they say and even still it is sometimes heartbreaking. Had a Pakistani Jr. Davis Cupper on the Ropes the summer of 84, City Courts, Rome Georgia I've a baby sitter, watched peoples homes while they were away on Vacation. Freelance writer, local consultant, screenwriter, and the best damn substitute teacher of Floyd County Georgia in mid 80's according to an anonymous kid passed me on main street a few years later when I went back to get a sandwich at Schroeders. Had some good moments in Collinsville as well. Ask Casey Mattox at if he will be honest about it. I try my best to make it to Bridges BBQ in Shelby NC at least four times a year.

Monday, August 28, 2006

PuttinTheSqueezeonWithBigDaddyWeave/ FASoLa,PresCarterandCollinsville/FamilyReunions

That's of Baylor Unversity and Soperton Georgia. He siad his folks are members of Calvary Baptist in Waco where we may have some mutual revenant acquaintances. He has an interesting testimony up today at as well as on his blog as to how things played out in a small congregation in smalltown Georgia where the money left to start a CBF in name only Church. I think he and I share similar frustrations with folks from here on we will call the People in Question or TPIQ; roughly those folks some of whom we know mutually who claim allegiance to Molly Marshall or President Carter or Baylor or Habitat for Humanity, but cannot find themselves to witness to folks in their hometown whose congregations are up for grabs by folk church people who have no Baptist compunction and are quite complacent in their ignorance, assuming the Baptist bent on Christendom and church state relations somehow reproduces itself like magic. It just doesn't happen that way, and Big Daddy, like other 20/30something friends of mine who interned for James Dunn during The Fight In the 80's know what I am talking about.
Therefore hoping we will be crossblogging here and there to bring heat to local church pastors like the MOrgans in Collinsville, and the laypeople Weave knew in Soperton to bring this thing on down to the grassroots like I attempted to do in Collinsville Feb 24, 2002.
So yall stay tuned and keep checking in here, and on his blog and in the big dance at where If I am not mistaken Karen Smith posted as recently as ten days or so ago.

Original Post
Gonna be a gonzo catchall blog here for sure, as there were way too many things happening this weekend, and I tried to skirt them all.
I was hoping to be in East Tenn this weekend where my Dad once preacher to George McGovern--true story, 1983--but ended up takin in the happenings near at hand, which turned out to be glorious indeed, the annual two day FaSoLa Sacred Harp Singing just up the mtn. Good crowd. Made some new friends, including Dan Thoma, from Portland Oregon, the son of a UCC minister.

His first time to a Southern SHSinging. He said it was great. I think we will see him next year at the July 4 weekend Singing at Henegar, home of the core group that made the Cold Mtn Soundtrack. Thoma says he relishes the experience cause you "leave the particulars of your religion at the door." It is quite a spiritual moment if you let yourself go in the decibel of the voices, and the avalanche of pretty good prose in the lyrics. Lot of Isaac Watts.
I felt compelled about the end of the 5th hour over four days of singing to make a short testimony. My friend Sam Hodges, former book page editor of the Charlotte Observer--fellow Furman grad, who with his first cousin JeffLowe, a Baptist minister's son editted the letters of their gggrandfather to gggrandmom, Letters to Amanda--in his book footnoted one of the songs, or as they say in the SH community #30 on the bottom--page 209 ft note 34 This verse forms the first of two lines of the fourth stanza of an I Watts hymn: "Jesus can make a dying bed, soft as downy pillars are."
A few minutes before his ancestor Marion Hill Fitzpatrick of near Crawford, Georgia died; Fitizpatrick sang those words, solo much like the 140 or so of us sang yesterday morning. It kind of bonded me to that community.
And now I understand another Furman person, Scott Walker of FBC Waco, is getting high praise for a UGA published book on his GGGrandfather's Confederate 57th Regiment in the Civil War. Dallas Morn News recently did a feature on Walker's fascinating book.
I go to SH singings about twice a year now; that was only my third singing. Great Lemonade and a spread for lunch that want stop. Got some distant relatives on my MOther's side in charge.
Among the out of towners were a post doc student at Dartmouth, who got her Doc at Princeton; two fascinating women from Minnesota; interesting mainstream republican from Michigan who is gonna send me some thoughts in German on Jesus as a soccer player; and a Duke PHD who teaches at Bham Southern.
Also fellow there hawking his documentary DVD he says has a good chance of going national with GA. Public Tv being the sponsor

Yesterday just wouldn't end, however. AFter the singing I was wiped out so I took about a 45 minute nap. Went to a friend's place, was on the way when I saw him and another friend on the way to supper. I had too big a lunch at the singing, but fellowship is good my Grandfather, WD Shorty Fox said, so I got the big burger at Applebee's. Saw Martha's new reported Guest house which has been moved across the street from where it once housed Timothy Smith family; Tim a key on camera interview in Brett Morgen's 1992, Blessings of Liberty.
Timothy is a force for the last five minutes of the film; Brett later was nominated for Oscar for his 99 on the Ropes and was co director of the highly Acclaimed 02 or so "Kid Stays in the Picture."
I was given a credit as a local consultant for BOL, but my name got two xx's when I am a one x Fox. Look for a major documentary release from C 7 Films in the near future.
Had a break from them and talked things over back in Collinsville with a Gideon who went to wrong church when he was at Auburn; but good guy anyway. Caught a litte US Open tennis preview(update Spanish kid took out Lubovich in a major upset in the first round), was calling it a night, when friend #2 shows up with Bo. Caught up with Bo,andthought that was it. Then #2 8:8 comes out midnight passed thirty in Ga for a counseling Session. I felt like saying Hell, Boy it's late and there is not a damn thing I can do. Paraphrase of something Will Campbell told me on the phone once, but the poor soul was fragile. I don't know what to do.
But he has a streak of kindness, was concerned I may become a martyr for my convictions in Collinsville.
That is where President Carter may be able to help. We have some mutual friends in Jack Harwell and Quattlebaum and VEstal, and some younger 30 something friends have been to his Sunday School class twice.
My point is if Carter is good for them then why not challenge their home church to have some friends from the cbf speaker's bureau come over for Sunday Morning pulpit supply. Bring Jon Appleton in. Don't let the mediocres take over a struggling congregation by default; or rather, if mediocres is not the right word, the folks who are obviously ignorant and confused about the better baptist legacy of the congregation who building they now house.
Stay tuned for more on that later.
Something else I was gonna throw in this hodgepodge. I'm thinkin the Panthers may play Geraldine an honest ball game this year in about three weeks, but it was something else.
Oh, hoping to bring mezzo soprano and 5th cousin Freida McNair to the area. I understand she is in the SW now, New Mexico. If the music department at Baylor had any imagination they would find a way to propjet her in twice a week for tutorials.
Feed the Bears. That's a Good place to stop for now.
Oh, anaside to pick up later. Wade Burleson was showing some signs of virtuous dialogue there for a while, but he refuses to engage the conversation stoked by Randall Balmer to the effect Richard Land is a counterfeit Baptist. No real Reform I can see in his version of Grace andTruth if Land is not in play.
In a couple weeks, we may dissect Page's FBC Taylors Congregation. Choir members there have children active in CBF. CanBurleson and Marty Duren allow that. What about Maranatha in Plains; Buddy Shurden, Bruce Gourley Collinsville Baptist, and their new friend Jennifer Wilkins and I imagine soon to be Bill Fortner, my assessor in the letters column Feb and March this year at ; his letter of Feb 27 in effect asking me to leave the church my family had been in for 150 odd years, and he and his group for about 6,himself active about three. Talk about hubris.

I think this may enervate the Accad link in the comments below. For all the world to know, it is not me deleting Jonathan's comments. There is a Jonathan who frequents I just assume this one is one and the same.
Accad, who I met in April this year in one of the better events Samford's then Tom Corts, and Bama Baptist's Bob Terry staged for the is a great Baptist Christian presence in the Mideast. I doubt he would sign the BFM 2000. Would love to see him in dialogue with Charles Kimball of the religiion dept of

And this one is interesting as well, as it gets close to home to the community, with one member a Duke Grad as was Ms. Butler, divinity school, and another valent former member a huge fan of Julie Pennington Russell, though apparently it has registered little with her former faith community as their Coop Program dollars go to fund the counterfeit baptist, Richard Land. Who called him Counterfeit? Randall Balmer, friend of Sam R. Beene of the Gilbreath line.
And that essay would be
The Al Was Right is the same Mohler who handed Dr. Morgan his doctorate. The Family saw Mohler's library, I understand, before they went to Israel for the first time.
Which wraps up this small world post with it would be interesting to compare Accad's mideast politics with Aunt Mary's and the Ga. Bap Convention President of Eastside Mayretta, 1988; Jim Deloach as well.
Hop scotchin here, but did read Peter STeinfels in the American Prospect last night. For that valence check on last week's chat at
Sorry about the delete's Jonathan of Indianna. Again it ain't me. Somebody has spooked my wonderful blog and it has me concerned. May have to consult a Blog Doctor.


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Blogger foxofbama said...

Thanks for the negatives. I have good reason to believe lot of folks are reading my posts here, some pretty influential folks, and some, like yourself not as influential.
Looking forward to joining you back at soon.
BTW, what is that book list you have read in the last two years. Hankins and Balmer are still waiting on you, right?
But sweetheart, I was proud of your post at couple days ago about your parents, and their good heart, and hospitality to the stranger. Both of us had good folks, it seems.
7823, that's the number for my friend Martin Accad, up today at
Take care, and check the Big Daddy Weaver blog out in Waco. That could be the story this fall. And now that you are casa chena--pardon my Hebrew, roughly a phrase Marney introduced me to--take a look at Burleson and Duren's blog. Strong revenant you are, don't hide it under a bushel.
Don't worry about me. Been listening to lot of Talking Heads today and as they say of Indiana, the place where Prince Charles spent his first honeymoon; but as TH says in the great song: "I wouldn't live there if they paid me." I miss those emoticons over at, so in your mind insert a smilie one here......
For those of you who are wondering about the deleted comment; that was a technical problem that took out big Daddy Weave. No porn intruders that I am aware of; just precautions about unwittingly naming Baylor personalities who need to show little more interest in their Hometown Baptist ID.
And Jonah boy, Flick has checked in here as well as Proverbs 8:8.
Have you checked the dialogue between Prescott and Balmer yet at
You need to. And when you do, please share with Indiana, birthplace of the Birch Society wasn't it; if not then the Ga 7th where yall bagged Shorter.

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Blogger jonathanofindiana said...

bamafoxy, I just checked Not sure what Mac consulting has to do with me (or whose parents you are talking about). Do you use an Apple machine? Who is Flick?

Ease up on the delete button.

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Blogger Musings said...

Hi. My name is Elizabeth and I was the Duke Divinity School student that Amy Butler wrote about in her Ethics daily article. You recently posted comments to Rev. Butler on my blog. I just wanted to let you know that her blog is in case you wanted to comment directly to her.

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Blogger Frog Price said...

I would love to contact your cousin, Freida Mcnair. She and I were friends years ago at Central Park Baptist church. She was a beautiful young lady with a wonderful voice.

Frog Price

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