9/28: Bama Dan Ireland Bush, Cuba and Alliance of Baps
Update Sept 28, Bush visits Bham:
President Bush visited Bham today for a fundraiser for Gov. Bob Riley; if not a Baptist deacon, then at minimum a Sunday School teacher.
Sources tell me the fourth man the President shook hand after debarking AF One, after Gov Riley, and Mayor Kincaid and Patsy, was the man who baptized SBC President Bobby Welch in Ft. Payne, Alabama back in the 60's, Bama Baptist blue nose Dan Ireland head of AlCap.
In the past Ireland has reportedly been a distraction to noble progressive causes in the state like tax reform and constitutional reform. He is a perfect symbol for the mesh of Richard Land's values vote and symbolically Ireland is a fog when it comes to truthtelling about the kind of politics SBC Cooperative Program dollars now support through Land's ERLC.
Ireland is not a Reconstructionist, maybe not even a fan of the State's Christian Coalition. But he is a perfect skirt underwhich Land can continue to promote CP dollars while being the counterfeit baptist Randall Balmer has rightly named him.
The obvious question for the states secular and Baptist Press is, just what is the governor trying to convey here in this symbolic politics of personality of Dan Ireland.
And just what kind of Baptist is the governor? Is he a Tom Corts Baptist of progressivism, a conduit to justice and reform politics; or is he an Ireland/Bobby Welch schmoozing the Christian Coalition in a fog while backslapping Rove and Land in the politics of fog and disingenuity.
Is the Governor with Corts for the BWA and against BFM 2000; or is the Governor with his Attorney General agaisnt the BWA and for BFM 2000?
How can the folks in Collinsville, Alabama have a clue, for instance, if Bob Terry doesn't use his considerable communication skills to explore the obvious question posed by the symbolic politics of Bush visit today?????
Original Post:
The August 16, Weds issue of the Tuscaloosa Alabama News had a sterling oped piece on the mess with the Bushies and the Alliance of Baptists. It is worth the semi arduous search on site at www.tuscaloosanews.com for this oped Fining Baptists shows Failure of Bush Cuba Policy if the the link here does not take you there.
The Alliance owes me free membership for this taskdifficulty of throwing up this link. Hope it is up at their site www.allianceofbaptists.org soon
www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/NEWS/608160322&SearchID=73254456281547
Hope it works. Great oped from the hometown of Bear Bryant and Rick Lance. Hoping Rick Lance and Gov Riley's staff read this oped and have a conscience to speak out about it; even Pintlala's Gary Burton and his parishioner Ray Scott.
Bush and company is fining Miss America Deidre Downs here and it is shameless.
At the risk of getting my knuckles rapped by friends in BCOC and FBC Greenville, want to say a few things about those two churches just in case some of the media want to further frame this little spat between the Bush administration and some Baptist churches that don't line up with Karl Rove and Richard Land's view of the world.
And from frequent visits to two of the five in question in the August 15 story you can click on at www.baptiststoday.org, I can say these are two churches my friend Randall Balmer did not have in mind when he asked in Chapter Two of Thy Kingdom Come "Where HaVE All the Baptists Gone?" These folks are true Vine Truett, Marney Baptists. In fact Truett preached right around the corner from BCOC in 1941 and for all I know at FBC Greenville as well.
Balmer puts a lot of stock in Truett when he compares him to the Land "counterfeit". See my blog.
Here are some of the "communist" members of those two churches.
FBC Greenville, Baxter Wynn, brother of Barry Wynn, former Chair of the SC GOP
Mark and Kathy Stone, good friends of mine, Mark a roommate for a term at Furman, whose doubles partner on the tennis team there was Dudley Reynolds, now CEO of Alagasco in Bama.
If he hadn't married Kathy, maybe I woulda.
Dudley and Kathy shared roots in Anniston, though I am not sure they were acquainted before Furman.
James Pitts, former Furman Chaplain. His Dad Was Nixon's Barber. Ask him
Minor Mickel Shaw; Can't say we are on a first name basis, but her Uncle, Charles Daniel, hosted Nixon when he was Daniel's overnight guest in the mansion that became the President's Mansion for Furman, whose current president is a member at FBC Greenville, as is Neal Rabon.
AT BCOC: Deidre Downs, former Miss America. Deidre, like Dudley was a contender for RHodes SCholar.
Oteil Burbage (sp?). Bass guitarist for The Allman Brothers, as an American an institution as anyone I know
Rod Davis: Great friend and defender of Eric Motley, recently profiled on the front page of the Washington Post. Motley an mid 90's Samford grad is high ranking Bush official. Karl Rove loves him. He may become The Alliance of Baptists Saviour in this imbroglio. We shall see.
Todd Heifner: Tour manager and Booking agent for SBC President Jim Henry's daughter Kate Campbell of www.katecampbell.com Todd is fan of Roy Acuff, whose first cousin Emil played lot of Rook with me and my Dad and Uncle Fremont when he would visit the parsonage of Alice Bell Baptist in Knoxville.
DAvid Goodwin, Habitat Great Soul; loves baseball
DAn Vestal of the CBF stands with the Alliance on this matter. Dan Vestal was just down the street from George W at FBC Midland Texas, when Dub was gettin his alcohol Rehab in the Mid 80's with the Methodists. Early CBF treasurer and Oil Wildcatter whose name I forget but have written down at home--talked to him on the phone in my freelance days--was great friend of Dub, as is Ray Scott, whose Pintlala, Bama pastor GAry Burton will stand with BCOC on this matter.
FBC Savannah, Finlator has preached there if I am not mistaken and my friend at Shorter who was on to the Birchers when they were thick at Jerry Vines old church West Rome when my friend was at First Rome. His son has been District Atty for Floyd County and good friend of Debbie Medaris, at Miss Alabama Contestant herself in mid 70's. Her Talent was trampoline.
The Bush administration may want to reconsider on this one.
President Bush visited Bham today for a fundraiser for Gov. Bob Riley; if not a Baptist deacon, then at minimum a Sunday School teacher.
Sources tell me the fourth man the President shook hand after debarking AF One, after Gov Riley, and Mayor Kincaid and Patsy, was the man who baptized SBC President Bobby Welch in Ft. Payne, Alabama back in the 60's, Bama Baptist blue nose Dan Ireland head of AlCap.
In the past Ireland has reportedly been a distraction to noble progressive causes in the state like tax reform and constitutional reform. He is a perfect symbol for the mesh of Richard Land's values vote and symbolically Ireland is a fog when it comes to truthtelling about the kind of politics SBC Cooperative Program dollars now support through Land's ERLC.
Ireland is not a Reconstructionist, maybe not even a fan of the State's Christian Coalition. But he is a perfect skirt underwhich Land can continue to promote CP dollars while being the counterfeit baptist Randall Balmer has rightly named him.
The obvious question for the states secular and Baptist Press is, just what is the governor trying to convey here in this symbolic politics of personality of Dan Ireland.
And just what kind of Baptist is the governor? Is he a Tom Corts Baptist of progressivism, a conduit to justice and reform politics; or is he an Ireland/Bobby Welch schmoozing the Christian Coalition in a fog while backslapping Rove and Land in the politics of fog and disingenuity.
Is the Governor with Corts for the BWA and against BFM 2000; or is the Governor with his Attorney General agaisnt the BWA and for BFM 2000?
How can the folks in Collinsville, Alabama have a clue, for instance, if Bob Terry doesn't use his considerable communication skills to explore the obvious question posed by the symbolic politics of Bush visit today?????
Original Post:
The August 16, Weds issue of the Tuscaloosa Alabama News had a sterling oped piece on the mess with the Bushies and the Alliance of Baptists. It is worth the semi arduous search on site at www.tuscaloosanews.com for this oped Fining Baptists shows Failure of Bush Cuba Policy if the the link here does not take you there.
The Alliance owes me free membership for this taskdifficulty of throwing up this link. Hope it is up at their site www.allianceofbaptists.org soon
www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/NEWS/608160322&SearchID=73254456281547
Hope it works. Great oped from the hometown of Bear Bryant and Rick Lance. Hoping Rick Lance and Gov Riley's staff read this oped and have a conscience to speak out about it; even Pintlala's Gary Burton and his parishioner Ray Scott.
Bush and company is fining Miss America Deidre Downs here and it is shameless.
At the risk of getting my knuckles rapped by friends in BCOC and FBC Greenville, want to say a few things about those two churches just in case some of the media want to further frame this little spat between the Bush administration and some Baptist churches that don't line up with Karl Rove and Richard Land's view of the world.
And from frequent visits to two of the five in question in the August 15 story you can click on at www.baptiststoday.org, I can say these are two churches my friend Randall Balmer did not have in mind when he asked in Chapter Two of Thy Kingdom Come "Where HaVE All the Baptists Gone?" These folks are true Vine Truett, Marney Baptists. In fact Truett preached right around the corner from BCOC in 1941 and for all I know at FBC Greenville as well.
Balmer puts a lot of stock in Truett when he compares him to the Land "counterfeit". See my blog.
Here are some of the "communist" members of those two churches.
FBC Greenville, Baxter Wynn, brother of Barry Wynn, former Chair of the SC GOP
Mark and Kathy Stone, good friends of mine, Mark a roommate for a term at Furman, whose doubles partner on the tennis team there was Dudley Reynolds, now CEO of Alagasco in Bama.
If he hadn't married Kathy, maybe I woulda.
Dudley and Kathy shared roots in Anniston, though I am not sure they were acquainted before Furman.
James Pitts, former Furman Chaplain. His Dad Was Nixon's Barber. Ask him
Minor Mickel Shaw; Can't say we are on a first name basis, but her Uncle, Charles Daniel, hosted Nixon when he was Daniel's overnight guest in the mansion that became the President's Mansion for Furman, whose current president is a member at FBC Greenville, as is Neal Rabon.
AT BCOC: Deidre Downs, former Miss America. Deidre, like Dudley was a contender for RHodes SCholar.
Oteil Burbage (sp?). Bass guitarist for The Allman Brothers, as an American an institution as anyone I know
Rod Davis: Great friend and defender of Eric Motley, recently profiled on the front page of the Washington Post. Motley an mid 90's Samford grad is high ranking Bush official. Karl Rove loves him. He may become The Alliance of Baptists Saviour in this imbroglio. We shall see.
Todd Heifner: Tour manager and Booking agent for SBC President Jim Henry's daughter Kate Campbell of www.katecampbell.com Todd is fan of Roy Acuff, whose first cousin Emil played lot of Rook with me and my Dad and Uncle Fremont when he would visit the parsonage of Alice Bell Baptist in Knoxville.
DAvid Goodwin, Habitat Great Soul; loves baseball
DAn Vestal of the CBF stands with the Alliance on this matter. Dan Vestal was just down the street from George W at FBC Midland Texas, when Dub was gettin his alcohol Rehab in the Mid 80's with the Methodists. Early CBF treasurer and Oil Wildcatter whose name I forget but have written down at home--talked to him on the phone in my freelance days--was great friend of Dub, as is Ray Scott, whose Pintlala, Bama pastor GAry Burton will stand with BCOC on this matter.
FBC Savannah, Finlator has preached there if I am not mistaken and my friend at Shorter who was on to the Birchers when they were thick at Jerry Vines old church West Rome when my friend was at First Rome. His son has been District Atty for Floyd County and good friend of Debbie Medaris, at Miss Alabama Contestant herself in mid 70's. Her Talent was trampoline.
The Bush administration may want to reconsider on this one.
posted by foxofbama | 1:32 PM
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note to myself
Forrest Lanier was the former pastor at Savannah and FBC Rome who put the Birchers on the run everywhere he went. Now they own the place, Shorter College at least, with the for all practical purposes Birch Society theology of Nelson Price.
Bet Lanier is turning over in his grave.
Why are the miracles so important to the faith? Thomas Jefferson wrote his own Gospel without them. Isn't the message of perfect benevolence enough to show the message was of divine origin?
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