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Born May 18, 1953; got saved at Truett Memorial BC in Hayesville, NC 1959. On rigged ballot which I did not rig got Most Intellectual class of 71, Gaffney High School. Furman Grad, Sociology major but it was little tougher than Auburn football players had Had three dates with beautiful women the summer of 1978. Did not marry any of em. Never married anybody cause what was available was undesirable and what was desirable was unaffordable. Unlucky in love as they say and even still it is sometimes heartbreaking. Had a Pakistani Jr. Davis Cupper on the Ropes the summer of 84, City Courts, Rome Georgia I've a baby sitter, watched peoples homes while they were away on Vacation. Freelance writer, local consultant, screenwriter, and the best damn substitute teacher of Floyd County Georgia in mid 80's according to an anonymous kid passed me on main street a few years later when I went back to get a sandwich at Schroeders. Had some good moments in Collinsville as well. Ask Casey Mattox at if he will be honest about it. I try my best to make it to Bridges BBQ in Shelby NC at least four times a year.

Thursday, October 25, 2007

Frank Page and Huckabee; Ronnie Floyd and Richard Land; SBC and Ameriker

The split between those groups witing Southern Baptist fundamentalism and its Rovian implications for the current GOP Presidential Race in South Carolina.
Here is a clue. Somebody get a clue, and then call up Chip Campsen of the SC Legislature, Harry Dent's daughter Ginny Brant, and Beaufort Mayor Bill Rauch.
Wouldn't hurt to read Rauch's book before you call him up, the Chapter Principles in the book Politikin and then ask Furman detractor Campsen what he thinks about it and the difference in tactics by Page and Huck on one hand; and Rove, Land and Floyd on the other; tactics and character.
An SBC shade for sure, but maybe the last chance there is to get the vast crestfallen victims of the blasphemous mob, the great numbers of the unwitting who continue blindly to underwrite Rovism in America through their Cooperative Program Dollars to Richard Land's ERLC.

Here is a link to consider again and again between now and the South Carolina Primary and days after as well.

And again, wouldn't hurt to do a thorough reading of concluding chapters of Garry Wills' American Christianities before you start thinking through all this.

Here, this gets to the heart of Richard Land's America, and why as the Baptist son of the Council for National Policy's takeover artists Pressler and Paige Patterson, he is closer to Rove and Floyd, than he is to Frank Page and Mike Huckabee. Please read Wills for perspective on this
From today's NY Times oped pages:

Yet the leaders of the Values Voters keep waiting for one of the top-tier candidates to change — a strategy that any woman who’s had an unsatisfactory boyfriend could warn them is never going to pan out. They pace around muttering that maybe Fred Thompson will start acting more ... alive, or that Mitt Romney will stop being a Mormon. Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, seems to think Rudy Giuliani has come around on gay marriage. (Perkins should talk to Rudy’s gay former roommate Howard Koeppel about the time the then-mayor promised to marry Koeppel and his partner as soon as the laws change.)
Huckabee’s problems say more about the leaders of the religious right than about him. They’re united mainly by their hatred of abortion and gay marriage, and a desire to win. Considerations like who has the most Christian attitudes toward illegal immigrants don’t register. And the fact that as governor Huckabee spent a lot of time trying to spend money on the needy doesn’t go over all that well with the ones who believe that God’s top priority is eliminating the estate tax.
By Gail Collins

And there is much hope in an ecumenical witness in Greenville South Carolina November 26, 4days after Thanksgiving this year.
Tom Corts Brother Paul and others will bear witness, in the backyard of Frank Page one more time; will call Richard Land to repentance for his silence in the right to life cabal of Rove/Bush 2000--see Rauch--when they stage a Gospel Ralley unlike anything Billy Graham ever did.
LD Johnson and Marney must be proud of this one, a far cry from 1956 when Stewart Newman had to stand up and say WA Criswell doesn't speak for me.
I hope to be there.

From the Faith in Public life report
Meanwhile, a broad alliance of religious leaders, some of them also conservative Christians, is trying to persuade the candidates that the faith and values agenda is larger than those issues.
They are inviting Republican and Democratic candidates to speak at back-to-back “Compassion Forums” on Nov. 26 in Greenville, South Carolina, an early primary state.
They want to ask the candidates where they stand on climate change, torture, poverty in the United States and abroad, and genocide in Darfur – as well as abortion.
Backing the event is an unusual left/right alliance of evangelical, Catholic, Jewish and Muslim religious leaders who only recently would have made very strange bedfellows indeed: including Dr. Frank Page, President of the Southern Baptist Convention; Dr. Paul R. Corts, President, Council for Christian Colleges and Universities; Rev. Jim Wallis, founder of the liberal group Sojourners and author of “God’s Politics;” Dr. Syeed Sayeed, general secretary of Islamic Society of North America; Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, President of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference; and Bishop Vashti McKenzie, of the African Methodist Episcopal Church.
The organizers, a relatively new Washington group called Faith in Public Life, say they have interest from top candidates, although none have confirmed yet. They say they are negotiating with a network to broadcast it, that John Meacham, managing editor of Newsweek, will moderate, and that churches and Christian colleges will organize viewing parties.
It is one of a growing number of efforts under way among religious leaders to declare a ceasefire in the culture wars and focus on issues they can all agree on. Earlier this month, Third Way, a liberal think tank, issued a paper signed by several prominent evangelicals calling for new approaches to polarizing issues, such as reducing abortion by making birth control more widely available and expanding tax credits for adoption.

Here is the Greenville support network

Friends & PartnersInterfaith Forum (IF) is a coalition of religious communities in the Upstate of South Carolina that advocates social justice, promotes charitable outreach, and foster mutual support and interfaith dialogue. We invite you to bring the strengths and blessings of your house of worship to our interfaith effort to build religious understanding and cooperation.
Baha'i Assembly of Greenville
Bon Secours St. Francis Health System
Catholic Charities / Piedmont Deanery
Christ Church Episcopal
Congregation Beth Israel
Disciples United Methodist Church
First Baptist Church Greenville
First Christian Church
First Church of Christ, Scientist
Fourth Presbyterian Church
Furman University
Greenville Area Interfaith Hospitality Network
Greenville Jewish Federation
Lee Road United Methodist Church
Metropolitan Community Church of Greenville
Prince of Peace Catholic Church
St. James Episcopal Church
St. Mary's Catholic Church
Tabernacle Baptist Church
Thomas Height Baptist Church
Trinity United Methodist Church
Unitarian Universalist Fellowship
United Ministries
Upstate Homeless Coalition of South Carolina
Vedic Center
Westminster Presbyterian Church
Within Reach


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